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inquiry into bengahzi this week wants to know what petraeus learned on a secret trip to debrief the cia station chief there shortly before he resigned. >> we have asked to see the trip report. one person said he has read it, then we try to get it and they tell us it hasn't been done. that's unacceptable. we're entitled to this trip report. if we have to go to the floor of the senate on a subpoena, we will do that. >> reporter: feinstein and michael rogers also want to know why the president didn't learn about the fbi investigation until last thursday and why they didn't learn until a day later, the day petraeus resigned. but eric canter learned tof it two weeks earlier. >>> washington lawmakers will be returning to the capitol this morning and will be buzzing about the petraeus and allen investigations. but they're also going to be faced with a much larger problem. we're talking about the trillion dollar fiscal cliff, which if not dealt with before the end of the year will impact everyone in america. so today president obama will be meeting with key labor and progressive leaders at the
inquiry into bengahzi this week wants to know what petraeus learned on a secret trip to debrief the cia station chief there shortly before he resigned. >> we have asked to see the trip report. one person said he has read it, then we try to get it and they tell us it hasn't been done. that's unacceptable. we're entitled to this trip report. if we have to go to the floor of the senate on a subpoena, we will do that. >> reporter: feinstein and michael rogers also want to know why the...
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i found him to be very credible and forthcoming and was doing a good job at cia. it's a big loss for the agency and country that he has left but given the circumstances, unfortunately, i don't see there was any other alternative. >> how concerned are you that the fbi didn't seem to tell anyone about this investigation in what many in congress have suggested was not a timely manner? >> right, i'm very concerned about that and i spoke about that yesterday. with some of the staff who were getting briefed up on what was going to be coming in terms of the hearings and i asked the question, you know, when do they have an obligation to report and, of course, the answer is in a timely manner and as i understand it, the fbi did not inform either the chairman or the ranking member of either the house or senate intelligence committee or the full committees in a timely manner so that's something where it has to be addressed not only in this situation but other areas that involve sensitive intelligence issues or investigations. they need to be compliant with the law. >> congre
i found him to be very credible and forthcoming and was doing a good job at cia. it's a big loss for the agency and country that he has left but given the circumstances, unfortunately, i don't see there was any other alternative. >> how concerned are you that the fbi didn't seem to tell anyone about this investigation in what many in congress have suggested was not a timely manner? >> right, i'm very concerned about that and i spoke about that yesterday. with some of the staff who...
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that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that. >> joe sestak, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of layoffs. he's blaming president obama's re-election. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the re-election of our first african-american president. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson will weigh in on the racist reactions around the country. >>> thanks for staying with us tonight. the leader of a comp
that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that....
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that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that. >> joe sestak, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of layoffs. he's blaming president obama's re-election. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the re-election of our first african-american president. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson will weigh in on the racist reactions around the country. g to come back from rough economic times. employees are bein
that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that....
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mike morel at her side because petraeus, the former cia director can't be there. jonathan, the one thing that the three of these senators really tried to impart was the fact susan rice admitted she was wrong during the time she gave the interviews that she was wrong. and she went into this meeting and stated being wrong. that's a big admission. >> that is -- well, that is a
mike morel at her side because petraeus, the former cia director can't be there. jonathan, the one thing that the three of these senators really tried to impart was the fact susan rice admitted she was wrong during the time she gave the interviews that she was wrong. and she went into this meeting and stated being wrong. that's a big admission. >> that is -- well, that is a
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the former top spy being investigated by the agency that he once directed which, of course, is the cia. officials say the investigation by the cia inspector general surrounds whether petraeus used agency resources to advance his relationship with paula broadwell. speaking out about the scandal for the first time yesterday, attorney general eric holder defended the justice department's decision not to inform the president or members of congress sooner. >> we follow the facts. we do not share outside the justice department, outside the fbi the facts of ongoing investigations. we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. had we made the determination that a threat to national security existed, we would, of course, have made that known to the president and also to the appropriate members on the hill. >> now, with a pair of four-star generals being investigated, defense secretary leon panetta ordering a review of all military ethical standards, meanwhile, the fbi agent who helped trigger the initial investigation explaining
the former top spy being investigated by the agency that he once directed which, of course, is the cia. officials say the investigation by the cia inspector general surrounds whether petraeus used agency resources to advance his relationship with paula broadwell. speaking out about the scandal for the first time yesterday, attorney general eric holder defended the justice department's decision not to inform the president or members of congress sooner. >> we follow the facts. we do not...
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he didn't want on record that cia intelligence was bad and that was the reason. so that "wall street journal" report we saw yesterday talking about petraeus in his final days at the cia really wanting to come out and talk publicly. we have a greater sense of why that was. of all the agencies and departments that have their hands in the libya affair, cia, dod, state, white house, fbi, i think it's clear that the cia's jurisdiction in a lot of what happened was probably minimal. that makes petraeus's downfall all the more sad, because i think of everyone the cia and david petraeus probably had the cleanest hands in all of this. we have to see. we obviously have plenty more questions going forward. >> to your point, s.e., it shows his resignation was over the extra-marital affair. >> yeah. >> i want to take a step back here on this whole issue. i mean, i think -- let me start by saying that i think the questions about the security at the consulate in benghazi are legitimate questions that deserve investigation. the thing that republicans have really glomed onto is w
he didn't want on record that cia intelligence was bad and that was the reason. so that "wall street journal" report we saw yesterday talking about petraeus in his final days at the cia really wanting to come out and talk publicly. we have a greater sense of why that was. of all the agencies and departments that have their hands in the libya affair, cia, dod, state, white house, fbi, i think it's clear that the cia's jurisdiction in a lot of what happened was probably minimal. that...
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a cia director, a u.s. military commander, a social liaison, a writer and wait for it, a shirtless fbi agent. we will try to unravel the real-life tragic comedy that is the david petraeus sex scandal. president obama takes on the role of salesman in chief. panelists steve kornacki, jonathan capehart, michael eric dyson and ashley parker weigh in. new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells explained why mitt romney america could be releg e relegated to death history. starts in a mere 180 seconds. [ ] raise the roof! ah? raise the roof! [ male announcer ] it's our biggest toy rollback of the year. find hundreds of rollbacks on the season's hottest toys in stores now, from america's gift headquarters, walmart. something this delicious could only come from nature. new nectresse. the 100% natural no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to mak
a cia director, a u.s. military commander, a social liaison, a writer and wait for it, a shirtless fbi agent. we will try to unravel the real-life tragic comedy that is the david petraeus sex scandal. president obama takes on the role of salesman in chief. panelists steve kornacki, jonathan capehart, michael eric dyson and ashley parker weigh in. new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells explained why mitt romney america could be releg e relegated to death history. starts in a mere 180...
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she's in the part of the cia. she was out doing what they do on sunday talk shows which is talking about a whole range of subjects. i suspect that if you asked john mccain in an honest moment about whether he was truly expert in all the things he talks about -- and his many sunday talk show appearances, he would say occasionally he ventured into territory he wasn't personally responsible for and that's where you get into the question of why it's not just me, it's the op-ed board, the editorial board of the "washington post" that said this is bizarre. why are they pursuing susan rice like this? there are troubling questions about these senators and their witch hunt that they have engaged in. >> david, john mccain said i am upset by answers that were given and answers that were not given. he's just upset generally about everything that happened. i will ask, is this the best thing the republicans have going for them? we have polling from cnn/orc that asks about a benghazi cover-up. 42% of respondents believe there wa
she's in the part of the cia. she was out doing what they do on sunday talk shows which is talking about a whole range of subjects. i suspect that if you asked john mccain in an honest moment about whether he was truly expert in all the things he talks about -- and his many sunday talk show appearances, he would say occasionally he ventured into territory he wasn't personally responsible for and that's where you get into the question of why it's not just me, it's the op-ed board, the editorial...
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he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought into examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an incredible resignation with incredible timing. i have a feeling as we get more detail it's going to become an even more important story. richard engel, thank you. i feel a feeling we'll be talking about this shortly. >>> who's in charge of the republican party now? simple question with a difficult answer. that's coming up. >>> beyond the first appearance of the president since the election and the shocking surprise resignation of general >>> beyond the first appearance of the president since the election and the shocking surprise resignation of general petraeus as head of the cia, there
he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought into examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an...
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unexpectedly right after the election which was the sex scandal that has ended the career that the cia chief, david petraeus. as you know, this arose from the fbi starting an investigation into an unrelated matter and they came across evidence of his sexual misconduct. at this point, there does not seem to be any evidence of anything criminal or of the mishandling of classified information. at least that we know thus far. given that, do you think that the fbi should tell congress and tell the white house about evidence they uncover of personal sexual misconduct by political figures? or should that be kept private? >> well, i believe that the standard has to be, does this have an impact on our national security? so far, we haven't seen anything that gives evidence of that. we have another balance that we have to strike, our founders had to do it, the beginning of our country, and we still do, except now with communication the way it is in a different way. and that's a balance between security and liberty. and so how do you make that balance? should congress and the president be informed
unexpectedly right after the election which was the sex scandal that has ended the career that the cia chief, david petraeus. as you know, this arose from the fbi starting an investigation into an unrelated matter and they came across evidence of his sexual misconduct. at this point, there does not seem to be any evidence of anything criminal or of the mishandling of classified information. at least that we know thus far. given that, do you think that the fbi should tell congress and tell the...
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andrea said he's expected to testify before the cia. this investigation with benghazi do you see any parallels, anything that might also have factored in with na resignation? >> well of course there's a link. i think at some juncture if he told the truth he would say he didn't have as much to do when on the ground what went on on the ground as people think. a large number the majority maybe all of the decision making was taken in the white house in the state department. he had nothing to do with it. that's a painful thing for him to say in testimony before the congress. >> all right. colonel jack jacobs thank you very much for joining us with this breaking news. a lot of developments. the president coming out and addressing the public for the first time since his re-election, discussing an invitation made to congressional leaders to meet at the white house to start in some kind of compromise to deal with the fiscal cliff looming reg
andrea said he's expected to testify before the cia. this investigation with benghazi do you see any parallels, anything that might also have factored in with na resignation? >> well of course there's a link. i think at some juncture if he told the truth he would say he didn't have as much to do when on the ground what went on on the ground as people think. a large number the majority maybe all of the decision making was taken in the white house in the state department. he had nothing to...
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they've now toppled the cia director. one thing we should remember in this discussion and, you know, you're reading that opinion piece before, the reason david petraeus doesn't have a job as cia director because david petraeus decided to resign. had he decided to -- attempt to weather the storm i'm not sure whether he would have been able to or not. this is not a situation where he was fired from his job. he offered his resignation and it was accepted a day later. so this is something he decided he needed to do. i think that's something to keep in mind as this goes forward. >> was it really david petraeus or his evil twin? i'm just kidding. i'm kidding. for the record -- >> find out next year. >> as far as i know does not have an evil twin. thank you. >> does he have a good one? >> thank you to politico's jonathan allen. >> take care, alex. >> after the break, president obama kicks off a new push for a budget deal, but not without applying a few lessons from the past. last december he used a news conference to promote the
they've now toppled the cia director. one thing we should remember in this discussion and, you know, you're reading that opinion piece before, the reason david petraeus doesn't have a job as cia director because david petraeus decided to resign. had he decided to -- attempt to weather the storm i'm not sure whether he would have been able to or not. this is not a situation where he was fired from his job. he offered his resignation and it was accepted a day later. so this is something he...
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any e-mail was not his cia e-mail. it was not like the former director who got busted taking home classified information on his home laptop. so this was not a national security matter. and it was not a criminal matter. so why was this brought up to the director of national intelligence by the fbi. we do not know. what we do know is once james clapper, head of the national intelligence, found out about the affair on election day, he urged david petraeus to resign. the following day, wednesday, mr. clapper reportedly notified staff at the white house and the following day, thursday, general petraeus sat down with president obama directly. the president did not accept his resignation initially that day. he didn't accept it until the following day, until friday. that's when it all became public. here's another question, though. why did the fbi investigation start here in the first place? what we're told about why it started is a woman who was not having an affair, she received e-mails that she perceived as threatening and
any e-mail was not his cia e-mail. it was not like the former director who got busted taking home classified information on his home laptop. so this was not a national security matter. and it was not a criminal matter. so why was this brought up to the director of national intelligence by the fbi. we do not know. what we do know is once james clapper, head of the national intelligence, found out about the affair on election day, he urged david petraeus to resign. the following day, wednesday,...
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all that while embattled former cia director david petraeus prepares to testify on capitol hill today. and breaking news from the middle east. as rockets are fired between the israelis and palestinians, this morning three israelis are killed. we'll have a live report coming up. first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. today, one scandal will give way to another in washington. david petraeus expected to testify in a closed door senate intelligence committee hearing. general petraeus is not expected to talk about his personal indiscretions that ended his cia career last week. instead, he'll be discussing details in the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya that resulted in the death of christopher stevens and three others. >>> also, the controversy over u.n. ambassador susan rice calling the assault spontaneous in september reached a boiling point. yesterday president obama and his first news conference since re-election exploded at republicans finger pointing over rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go a
all that while embattled former cia director david petraeus prepares to testify on capitol hill today. and breaking news from the middle east. as rockets are fired between the israelis and palestinians, this morning three israelis are killed. we'll have a live report coming up. first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. today, one scandal will give way to another in washington. david petraeus expected to testify in a closed door senate intelligence committee hearing. general petraeus is not...
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he was not an insider from the cia. the cia is a bit of an old-fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was some talk that -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. so the cia handles its own security. the fbi would have had to have been brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an incredible resignation with incredible timing. i have a feeling as we get more detail as it goes forward, it could become an even more important story. richard engel, thank you. >>> who is in charge of the republican party now? simple question with a difficult answer. that's coming up and more. [ knock on door ] cool. you found it. wow. nice place. yeah. [ chuckles ] the family thinks i'm out shipping these. smooth move. you used priority mail flat rate boxes. if it fits, it ships for a low, flat rate. paid for postage on
he was not an insider from the cia. the cia is a bit of an old-fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was some talk that -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. so the cia handles its own security. the fbi would have had to have been brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a...
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he served this country with great distinction in iraq, in afghanistan, and as head of the cia. by his own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of cia with respect to this personal matter that he is now dealing with with his family and with his wife. it's on that basis that he tendered his resignation and it's on that basis that i accepted it. but i want to emphasize that from my perspective at least, he has provided this country an extraordinary service. we are safer because of the work that dave petraeus has done and my main hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on and that this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career. >> [ inaudible ]. >> you know, again, i think you're going to have to talk to the fbi in terms of what their general protocols are when it comes to what started off as a potential criminal investigation. one of the challenges here is that we're not supposed to medle in criminal investigations and that's been our practice. you know, i think that there
he served this country with great distinction in iraq, in afghanistan, and as head of the cia. by his own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of cia with respect to this personal matter that he is now dealing with with his family and with his wife. it's on that basis that he tendered his resignation and it's on that basis that i accepted it. but i want to emphasize that from my perspective at least, he has provided this country an extraordinary...
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he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought into examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an incredible resignation with incredible timing. i have a feeling as we get more detail it's going to become an even more important story. richard engel, thank you. i feel a feeling we'll be talking about this shortly. >>> who's in charge of the republican party now? simple question with a difficult answer. that's coming up. ♪ announcing the all-new 2013 malibu from chevrolet. ♪ with a remarkable new interior featuring the available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. this is where sophisticated styling begins. and where it ends? that's up to you. it's here -- the greatest malibu ev
he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought into examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an...
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he was also very calculating on his take on the scandal surrounding former cia chief david pezus. >> i am withholding judgment on how the process around general pettia came up. and it's also possible you'd be asking why are we interfering in a criminal investigation. i think it's best right now for to us see how this whole process unfolded. >> the president also showed the immigration he has and pressure on republicans to reach a bipartisan agreement. >> before the election hi given a couple interviews where i had predicted that the latino vote to be strong and that and. >> i gets it's full steam ahead for the president's second term. he knows the work is not over on immigration. that is it going to be a big issue in 2013. climate chang came up today, which is very important to the economy and the economy itself. president obama needs to pain t -- maintain the support of the american people. at one point he was asked "you got a mandate"? >> with respect to the issue of mandate, i've got one mandate. i've got a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard t
he was also very calculating on his take on the scandal surrounding former cia chief david pezus. >> i am withholding judgment on how the process around general pettia came up. and it's also possible you'd be asking why are we interfering in a criminal investigation. i think it's best right now for to us see how this whole process unfolded. >> the president also showed the immigration he has and pressure on republicans to reach a bipartisan agreement. >> before the election hi...
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this is a complex cia operation that was interrupted by a terrorist attack. the cia is never going to tell you everything that they are doing or did as they should not. but that allows a lot of innuendo room for the right to say, see, we're not getting answers, not getting transparency. you can't because it's an intelligence community. they can't tell you everything. stop making it a scandal when you begin with the idea it's a scandal and then we're going to fill in backwards the details. >> the crime of watergate was much bigger than a mere burglary as you know. it was about richard nixon's attempt to rig an election and subvert the democratic process itself. are these guys such fanatics that they've forgotten the basic facts of their own country's history? >> yes. >> thank you. >> to put it shortly, yes, they have. martin, i assume you do and toure, i live in the reality-based community. >> amen. >> and i really wish that senators graham and mccain and others would immigrate over here to our side because susan rice -- this whole focus is on u.n. ambassador
this is a complex cia operation that was interrupted by a terrorist attack. the cia is never going to tell you everything that they are doing or did as they should not. but that allows a lot of innuendo room for the right to say, see, we're not getting answers, not getting transparency. you can't because it's an intelligence community. they can't tell you everything. stop making it a scandal when you begin with the idea it's a scandal and then we're going to fill in backwards the details....
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with petraeus out he could tap john owe brennan to take over at the cia. secretary of state hillary clinton has insisted she will serve one term only, vacating her post come january. the white house is leaning towards u.s. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice to replace clinton at foggy bottom. rice's confirmation is far from assured giving the questions surrounding her handling of the attacks in benghazi. defense secretary leon panetta made it clear he is ready for retirement. senator john kerry, eyeing the secretary of state position may be asked to replace panetta. adding to the stakes of musical chairs, general allen's confirmation hearing to lead nato has been put on hold. during the campaign president obama called for nation building at home in his second term. he'll need to start by rebuilding his own team. john heilemann, you were a guest on the very first program of this show, there is a lot happening inside the president's inner leadership circle. how much of a problem do you think this is for him? >> first of all, let's not -- let's terr
with petraeus out he could tap john owe brennan to take over at the cia. secretary of state hillary clinton has insisted she will serve one term only, vacating her post come january. the white house is leaning towards u.s. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice to replace clinton at foggy bottom. rice's confirmation is far from assured giving the questions surrounding her handling of the attacks in benghazi. defense secretary leon panetta made it clear he is ready for retirement. senator...
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you have a presidential election, you have the fbi and the cia kind of going at each other. you have an interagency dispute over the benghazi affair. let's not forget that two weeks ago, "the wall street journal" had a pretty damning article kind of pointing the finger at the cia for the benghazi debacle. a lot of people said then petraeus got thrown under the bus. i don't know if we're going to find out what the hell is going on here for weeks, months and even years. >> lindsey graham says petraeus better testify this week. his number two is now going to talk about the lead-up and what happened in terms of benghazi. but do you think he'll eventually have to testify? how much pressure do you think there is coming from capitol hill? >> i think there will be quite a bit of pressure. but it's not like his deputy isn't reading the same files that he is. i think they'll get just as informative a briefing from his deputy as you would from petraeus. but there will be pressure from capitol hill, definitely, going forward. we'll have to see what happens. hate to say it. there are a l
you have a presidential election, you have the fbi and the cia kind of going at each other. you have an interagency dispute over the benghazi affair. let's not forget that two weeks ago, "the wall street journal" had a pretty damning article kind of pointing the finger at the cia for the benghazi debacle. a lot of people said then petraeus got thrown under the bus. i don't know if we're going to find out what the hell is going on here for weeks, months and even years. >> lindsey...
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came from the intelligence community, from the cia. >> exactly. mark halperin, you've been watching this. susan rice with -- on "meet the press" and several of the other shows with david gregory on "meet the press" and when she was sticking to the narrative, in part, sticking to the narrative it had been a spontaneous protest that had evolved from the video, that had sparked it in benghazi that led to the tragic deaths of the ambassador and the three others, and that, of course, proved not to be accurate, a lot of tension with the cia over that and there is a suggestion that because there's a strong interest in susan rice being prepared, if the president chooses to nominate her to replace hillary clinton when she steps down, be that they need to clean that up in susan rice's benefit and that there could be some finger pointing at the cia, mark? >> for all the focus on the fiscal cliff and understandably so, the biggest issue by far the president and congress face in the next couple months the president will have to remake his foreign policy team.
came from the intelligence community, from the cia. >> exactly. mark halperin, you've been watching this. susan rice with -- on "meet the press" and several of the other shows with david gregory on "meet the press" and when she was sticking to the narrative, in part, sticking to the narrative it had been a spontaneous protest that had evolved from the video, that had sparked it in benghazi that led to the tragic deaths of the ambassador and the three others, and that,...
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so all that susan rice has done is believe the cia. that's her own only sin in this entire thing. and so for mccain to say he's going to filibuster her for something that he and then senator obama defended condoleezza rice on, is really hypocritical and really annoying to the president. because she was doing exactly what mitt romney did. you'll notice in the third debate, mitt romney did not bring up benghazi. why? he was given an opportunity by bob schieffer. he didn't because he had just gotten a classified briefing from the cia that told him what everybody who has got an classified briefing knows. which is that it was cia's fault that they didn't get intelligence faster on what happened in benghazi. it was not at all susan rice's fault. >> well, the president said today that the congress had the same information that susan rice had. >> exactly. >> but john mccain was out there blabbing this morning, saying that they should have known better. as if she doesn't have good enough judgment to be in this position or to be even considered for it. i mean, how much of a slap in the face
so all that susan rice has done is believe the cia. that's her own only sin in this entire thing. and so for mccain to say he's going to filibuster her for something that he and then senator obama defended condoleezza rice on, is really hypocritical and really annoying to the president. because she was doing exactly what mitt romney did. you'll notice in the third debate, mitt romney did not bring up benghazi. why? he was given an opportunity by bob schieffer. he didn't because he had just...
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>> i don't work in the cia. so i don't know what it would have done to morale if he had stayed in the cia. i think he could have stayed there. i don't think the cia would have been adversely affected. i think a few people in the cia including leaders of the cia have had affairs in the past. i don't think that that was a shock in and of itself. what bothers me is that this did not remain an internal fbi situation after they found out that national security was not at risk. i do not understand and i need the fbi to justify why they felt they needed to take this external after they made the determination that national security was not jeopardized. let's talk, jon huntsman, since we have you here, about the republicans. what happened last tuesday? >> well, i wish i had a very succinct answer for you, but i can conclude this. and that is if during the bush administration we had been successful with immigration reform, mitt romney would be president today. the way i look at it, you know, this should be an exciting tim
>> i don't work in the cia. so i don't know what it would have done to morale if he had stayed in the cia. i think he could have stayed there. i don't think the cia would have been adversely affected. i think a few people in the cia including leaders of the cia have had affairs in the past. i don't think that that was a shock in and of itself. what bothers me is that this did not remain an internal fbi situation after they found out that national security was not at risk. i do not...
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ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she accountable for going on national television knowing she can't tell the whole truth because it's classified? let's begin with senator susan collins, republican of maine. i guess it's the toughest question in the world, senator, and that is, do you believe that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, knowingly covered up a breach of national security? >> well, let me say this, chris, our purpose is to understand the security failure in benghazi. what the administration told the american public about it. and how we can learn lessons to keep our personnel safer in the future. so that's my interest and goal i
ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she...
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what i do know and what i did understand was disclosed was, unclassified information from the cia that demonstrated an enormous amount of agents and individuals concerned about what happened in benghazi that were ready to be helpful. and i think in that sense, general patreaus played an important and positive role. >> we will be watching those hearings with bated breath. governor bill richardson thank you for the time and insight? president obama tells the white house press corps and nation he hopes to begin his second term with a national conversation on climate change. as he tours damage from hurricane sandy, should that conversation start before inauguration day? we'll ask new york city deputy mayor howard wolfson, just ahead. >>> time for the "your business" entrepreneurs of the week. kathleen and susan are encouraging cuss plers to shop local. they created the monthly ladies night in the magnolia park area of burbank, california to boost sales by staying open late. support your local retailers november 24th for the third annual small business saturday. watch "your business" sunday
what i do know and what i did understand was disclosed was, unclassified information from the cia that demonstrated an enormous amount of agents and individuals concerned about what happened in benghazi that were ready to be helpful. and i think in that sense, general patreaus played an important and positive role. >> we will be watching those hearings with bated breath. governor bill richardson thank you for the time and insight? president obama tells the white house press corps and...
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he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an incredible resignation with incredible timing. i have a feeling as we get more detail on this as it goes forward it's going to become an even more important story. richard engel, nbc's chief foreign correspondent. thank you. richard engel, thank you. i feel a feeling we'll be talking about this shortly. >>> who's in charge of the republican party now? simple question with a difficult answer. that's coming up. were! [ husband ] transfer! [ male announcer ] free data transfer at home. you just deleted all the photos! you did! no you did! [
he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a real warmth...
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former cia director david petraeus is expected to testify. you see some of the tone and tenor of what will perhaps happen behind closed doors tomorrow. i'm tamron hall. you can watch "news nation" every day 2:00 p.m. eastern time. "the cycle" is up next. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. challenge the need for such heavy measures with olay. regenerist micro-sculpting serum for firmer skin in 5 days. pretty heavy lifting for such a lightweight. [ female announcer ] olay regenerist. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> i'm krystal ball and you'r
former cia director david petraeus is expected to testify. you see some of the tone and tenor of what will perhaps happen behind closed doors tomorrow. i'm tamron hall. you can watch "news nation" every day 2:00 p.m. eastern time. "the cycle" is up next. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the...
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. >> once the fbi realized it was investigating the director of the cia or the cia director came one their focus and scope, i believe at that time they had an absolute obligation to tell the president. not to protect david petraeus but to protect the president. >> joining any now is nabokov news chief andrea mitchell. let's start off with there's two lines of investigations we know could take place this week aalone. first, the hot one of the last couple of hours, especially on your show, who knew what, when, is how people like to put it. we heard from senator fine steen on your show regarding your concerns. >> her concerns and the concerns also as i understand it of the house republican chair mike rogers, a former fib agent himself is they were not told. they didn't get a heads-up from the fbi or the dni or the head of national intelligence, general clapper. they didn't get a heads-up from the nsc or the white house. the first thing they know on friday, general petraeus is resigning, and the president's accepting his resignation without knowing there's months and months of an investi
. >> once the fbi realized it was investigating the director of the cia or the cia director came one their focus and scope, i believe at that time they had an absolute obligation to tell the president. not to protect david petraeus but to protect the president. >> joining any now is nabokov news chief andrea mitchell. let's start off with there's two lines of investigations we know could take place this week aalone. first, the hot one of the last couple of hours, especially on your...
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military and the cia director himself. and that's what triggered delivering the e-mail, bringing the e-mails to the fbi and triggered concern by the fbi as well to open up the investigation. >> layer by layer, we continue to learn more. thank you, i appreciate it. >> thank you. just a short time ago president obama arrived in new york. he is expected to meet with family officials and first responders, all still trying to recover from hurricane sandy. the storm left millions without powers. some of the hardest hit areas on new york's long island. the congressman joins me now. congressman, it's good to have you with me this morning. let's ask about your area, neighbors there. how are they doing recovering from sandy and in your estimation has the federal government done enough to help in the last few weeks? >> well, this recovery will be long, it will be slow and difficult. it has been the way since the storm struck the last two weeks ago. we have small businesses trying to recover that lost business, our economy took a hit.
military and the cia director himself. and that's what triggered delivering the e-mail, bringing the e-mails to the fbi and triggered concern by the fbi as well to open up the investigation. >> layer by layer, we continue to learn more. thank you, i appreciate it. >> thank you. just a short time ago president obama arrived in new york. he is expected to meet with family officials and first responders, all still trying to recover from hurricane sandy. the storm left millions without...
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she said this because that's what the cia believed. that's what the cia told her with an intelligence briefing given to her that very day. yet john mccain and other republicans have launched a campaign to smear her and stop her from possibly becoming secretary of state. >> we will do whatever is necessary to block the nomination that's within our power as far as susan rice is concerned. >> i don't trust her. the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better and if she didn't know better she shouldn't be the voice of america. i don't think she deserves to be promoted. >> how could we place our trust in her? >> the question is how can the american people put their trust in lawmakers like these? the republicans are desperate to create a blame game here. so desperate they are actually invoking some of the great gop scandals of the past. >> somebody the other day said to me, this is as bad as water gate. nobody died in watergate. >> this is an administration that's now practicing serial deception. it's like watergate. >> the r
she said this because that's what the cia believed. that's what the cia told her with an intelligence briefing given to her that very day. yet john mccain and other republicans have launched a campaign to smear her and stop her from possibly becoming secretary of state. >> we will do whatever is necessary to block the nomination that's within our power as far as susan rice is concerned. >> i don't trust her. the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better and if she...
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well, brand new information on cia's role in the benghazi terror attacks. details next. >>> plus, oprah's favorite things, and you might even be able to afford a few of them. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. ♪ [ female announcer ] pop in a whole new kind of clean. with tide pods. a powerful three-in-one detergent that cleans. brightens. and fights stains just one removes more stains than the 6 next leading pacs combined pop in. stand out. a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if yo
well, brand new information on cia's role in the benghazi terror attacks. details next. >>> plus, oprah's favorite things, and you might even be able to afford a few of them. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever...
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to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's, from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts, the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother transition than you sometimes do in these situations. >> let me get back to richard engel about this. you know, you know these guys. you know as a military guy covering our fights overseas, the combat operations in iraq especially, this man was almost at the general mcarthur level just a few years ago. people were talking about him being the republican candidate for the presidency in the current election cycle. this is a big fall. this is a big fall down from where he was in our national estimate. >> it's almost the fall of an american hero. this last decade didn't create very many heros in the public i
to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's, from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts, the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother...
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own admission relaying the information, the latest intelligence, as provided by the cia. many people obviously have problems with the way this went down, with the way information was disseminated, and that's still being hashed out and it will continue to be hashed out when we're likely to see the former director of cia, david petraeus, on the hill behind closed doors. whether or not they actually go through with the susan rice nomination to succeed hillary clinton, we don't know at this point. i certainly think that they would not shy away from the fight if they thought that susan rice was the best person for that nomination. >> did you not get the impression yesterday, mike, that that was the implication of the president's assertion that he really does want to appoint her and he will push it through? >> well, you know, that was a lot of the chatter behind closed doors leading up to the president's very passionate defense of her yesterday. you know, it's no secret that john kerry not only was interested in that job in 2008 after the election but remains interested in that
own admission relaying the information, the latest intelligence, as provided by the cia. many people obviously have problems with the way this went down, with the way information was disseminated, and that's still being hashed out and it will continue to be hashed out when we're likely to see the former director of cia, david petraeus, on the hill behind closed doors. whether or not they actually go through with the susan rice nomination to succeed hillary clinton, we don't know at this point....
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the resignation of the general petraeus who stepped down as cia director on friday. multiple government sources tell nbc news that e-mails between petraeus and broadwell were indicative of an extramarital affair. kristen welker is joining me. let's start with the fbi investigation into this biographer paula broadwell. what can you tell us about this at this point? >> the fbi has opened up an investigation to determine whether paula broadwell had access to general petraeus' e-mail. general petraeus is not under investigation and they don't expect their inquiry will result in criminal charges. now, we have reached out to paula broadwell. we haven't heard back from her yet. she is, of course, at the center of this scandal. so who is she? she is a harvard graduate, also went to west point and she wrote this biography that i have here in my hands. it's called "all in," the education of general petraeus. it's a thick book but i want to read a lig sellment. she says, his critics fault him for ambition. i will note that he is driven and goal-orient d. so just one sentence in
the resignation of the general petraeus who stepped down as cia director on friday. multiple government sources tell nbc news that e-mails between petraeus and broadwell were indicative of an extramarital affair. kristen welker is joining me. let's start with the fbi investigation into this biographer paula broadwell. what can you tell us about this at this point? >> the fbi has opened up an investigation to determine whether paula broadwell had access to general petraeus' e-mail. general...
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his career at the cia is over. that's absolutely the right thing to do i have nope him for 20 years and petraeus is sort of the person the smallest little thing bothers him and to go through this, clearly a man of conscience made a grave mistake and just that, that anxiety is the sort of thing that could set anyone on edge. >> i want to turn to we just heard from accept tour shum and coburn about the fiscal cliff and talk to start about the mandate for the president in his second term, how do we define it? our colleague, ron torn yeah, wrote the following in the national journal on wednesday, digesting the election results. and this question of mandates, what he writes -- congressman, a democrat in san antonio, in a house still run by the republicans, we have a status quo election from that point of view, how do you define the mandates specifically around the fiscal cliff? >> the mandate for the american people for the congress to take action. david, we have sat here for four years in a gridlock situation and peopl
his career at the cia is over. that's absolutely the right thing to do i have nope him for 20 years and petraeus is sort of the person the smallest little thing bothers him and to go through this, clearly a man of conscience made a grave mistake and just that, that anxiety is the sort of thing that could set anyone on edge. >> i want to turn to we just heard from accept tour shum and coburn about the fiscal cliff and talk to start about the mandate for the president in his second term,...
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to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother transition than you sometimes do in these situations. >> let me get back to richard engel about this. you know, you know these guys. you know as a military guy covering our fights overseas, the combat operations in iraq especially, this man was almost at the general mcarthur level just a few years ago. people were talking about him being the republican candidate for the presidency in the current election cycle. this is a big fall. this is a big fall down from where he was in our national estima estimate. >> it's almost the fall of an american hero. this last decade didn't create very many heros in the pub
to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother...
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she will be taking that meeting alongside the acting director of the cia. in addition to this fight over the tax cuts, the president is not shying away from the secretary of state fight either. we know what he's being pressured to do and we know what he'd like to get done in the second term. by looming over all of those factors, looming over all of the decisions that the white house and the president himself are making right now over what to do with this second term, how to start this second term, looming over all of it is the modern american history and even the not-so-modern american history. the best-laid plans more often than not get derailed. for all of the advice a president gets, history offers the best caution for thinking that a second-term president can control how history remembers him. watch this. >> as with other second term presidents, bill clinton still hopes to leave his mark but with smaller steps. an approach more likely to please politicians than historians. >> i would say if he's interested in impressing scholars of the future, one thing
she will be taking that meeting alongside the acting director of the cia. in addition to this fight over the tax cuts, the president is not shying away from the secretary of state fight either. we know what he's being pressured to do and we know what he'd like to get done in the second term. by looming over all of those factors, looming over all of the decisions that the white house and the president himself are making right now over what to do with this second term, how to start this second...
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jerry springer, cia smackdown, 11:00 a.m. on wpix new york. >> wow. >> time now to take a look at the morning papers. the "wall street journal." a boom in shale oil will help the u.s. overtake saudi arabia as the world's largest oil producer by 2020. >> do you believe that? do you believe that? >> that's amazing. >> the top oil producer by 2020. it changes everything. >> by then, the u.s. is expected to produce 11 million barrels of oil a day, u.s. production peaked in 1970 at 9.5 million barrels a day. >> add to that the natural gas discoveries and energy suddenly becomes our strong suit moving forward. wow. >> that's much more -- and in the long-term, that's so much more important to national security than what we've been talking about. >> yeah. i would agree. >> it is shocking. >>> from a parade of papers, the "houston chronicle," less than a week from president obama's election, petition from texans to secede from the union. similar petitions have been filed on the white house website from a number of states from florida
jerry springer, cia smackdown, 11:00 a.m. on wpix new york. >> wow. >> time now to take a look at the morning papers. the "wall street journal." a boom in shale oil will help the u.s. overtake saudi arabia as the world's largest oil producer by 2020. >> do you believe that? do you believe that? >> that's amazing. >> the top oil producer by 2020. it changes everything. >> by then, the u.s. is expected to produce 11 million barrels of oil a day, u.s....
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for example the intelligence committee is meeting focusing on the cia commponent. questions raised for armed services including during a seven-hour attack why can't our military respond to help them there? homeland security has jurisdiction. it's important that we have a full investigation that we not have a piecemeal approach. we get a full accounting of what occurred, take the best recommendations make sure it doesn't happen again and learn lessons from it. that's why we've called for the establishment of a select committee it would be bipartisan, in fact the democrats are in charge of the senate so it would be a component of the members of the committees and obviously the democrats would be in charge of the committee but we have a process that the american people can have confidence in that we've gotten all of the information. >> you were with senators mccain and graham, i believe, yesterday, when they sort of drew a line in the sand about susan rice and the president reacted very angrily to that. shouldn't the president have his prerogatives about whom he nomin
for example the intelligence committee is meeting focusing on the cia commponent. questions raised for armed services including during a seven-hour attack why can't our military respond to help them there? homeland security has jurisdiction. it's important that we have a full investigation that we not have a piecemeal approach. we get a full accounting of what occurred, take the best recommendations make sure it doesn't happen again and learn lessons from it. that's why we've called for the...
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but republican and democratic lawmakers say petraeus made clear that the cia assessment of terrorism was secret and could not be used in public by u.n. ambassador susan rice. >> general petraeus, whose briefing was comprehensive, was added to our ability to make judgments about what has clearly a failure of intelligence. ambassador rice used the unclassified talking points. the unclassified. so she did completely the appropriate thing. >> nbc's mike vigor ra is live at the white house for us. >> good morning, alex. >> this back and forth we just listened to, does this end the dispute about what was said about the attacks in benghazi? >> i doubt that very seriously. it's tenored the political realm as well as the foreign policy and national security realm, and while harry reid, the democratic leader of the senate, the majority leader in the senate, has shot down republican suggestions that there should be a watergate-style joint committee, a select committee in the parlance of washington, to look into the benghazi attacks, of course, and september 11th that left four americans dead in
but republican and democratic lawmakers say petraeus made clear that the cia assessment of terrorism was secret and could not be used in public by u.n. ambassador susan rice. >> general petraeus, whose briefing was comprehensive, was added to our ability to make judgments about what has clearly a failure of intelligence. ambassador rice used the unclassified talking points. the unclassified. so she did completely the appropriate thing. >> nbc's mike vigor ra is live at the white...
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we've been hearing mark halperin, reading straight from the cia. we find out this just isn't true, that immediate ly this wa an al qaeda attack, right? >> it's still kind of confusing -- >> by the way, i'm basing that on "the new york times" reports and everything i read through the weekend. >> they didn't want to say everything they knew in public because they didn't want the terrorists to know the u.s. government was on to them. >> i heard that. seriously, al qaeda. they're like, oh, we couldn't say it was al qaeda because that might expose some of our assets on the ground. andrea mitchell, the term al qaeda if there's a terror attack and you say al qaeda, that's going to he can pose our assets on the ground? as my professor said, that does not pass the straight face test. >> reporter: or the smell test. i think the problem here is what this has exposed is the bureaucracy of the intelligence community. the fact that the intelligence community waters down what can be said in a declassified setting and that susan rice, the criticism is that she too
we've been hearing mark halperin, reading straight from the cia. we find out this just isn't true, that immediate ly this wa an al qaeda attack, right? >> it's still kind of confusing -- >> by the way, i'm basing that on "the new york times" reports and everything i read through the weekend. >> they didn't want to say everything they knew in public because they didn't want the terrorists to know the u.s. government was on to them. >> i heard that. seriously, al...